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Allowing Inmates to Wash Police Vehicles?
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Posted 4 months ago I am needing to justify why I will not allow my patrol car to be washed by inmates at the County Jail. For me, there are two reasons. First of all, from my office in the south end of the County, it will cost more in gasoline to drive the 30 mile roundtrip to the County jail than if I get a $3.00 car wash at the local gas station when I fill up. Secondly, and most importantly, I do not want convicted criminals having access to the inside of my vehicle. I carry a shotgun, a Bushmaster M-4, and extra ammunition for those as well as for my handguns in the vehicle. I also carry extra handcuffs, leg irons, handcuff keys, and other police equipment that I simply do not want anyone (especially criminals) having access to. Unloading all my equipment every time I need a car wash is simply not an option. So, I'd like to hear how your agency handles getting their cars washed. Ideally, I'd like some articles or other documentation of why allowing inmates access to police vehicles is a Bad Idea. |
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| Posted 4 months ago At one of my former departments, deputies utilized inmates to wash their patrol vehicles. I never did though. I washed my own. Like you, I didn't want prisoners having access to my vehicle and everything in it. As far as articles and documentation, I don't really know of none except for the fact that it's a potential, big liability. I would think that would be enough. |
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| Posted 4 months ago I agree if I was a law enforcment officer I would not want convicts having access to my car. I do however think inmates should work; so maybe they should work on washing not patrol vehicles that are in the Police vehicle fleet. |
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| Posted 4 months ago We used to allow inmates to wash our vehicles but we began to have problems when they were unsupervised. The inmates would carve graffiti into the paint, or just scratch the paint excessively. I think your best arguement though is the cost of gas, at $4.00 a gallon, and your typical police equipped crown vic getting 12-15 miles per gallon, it costs you $8.00 to drive there and have an inmate wash it. Try that with the bean counters, they love it when you save money. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Been there. I look at it this way, i put pride in my ride. I wash, wax and Rain-X my squad. I spend my own time and money to do it right. The old dept I worked at used inmates to wash both sqad cars and civilian employees vehicles. After seeing how some inmates re-use the same cloth AND water to wash 2 to 3 cars, there is (was) no way I'll have my ride come out from the wash bay with more dirt and scratches than when it went in with. Also it can be good PR when someone sees you cleaning you squad at a local carwash. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Hell, inmate labor builds our cars. While we do have technicians, the inmates do most of the manual labor. I have them wash the exterior of mine. I lock it, when they are done, I drive it off. If I want them to do the interior, I stay with the vehicle while it's being done. The rifle is in the trunk, the shotgun locked in a rack and they don't have unsupervised access to the interior. Plus, a pack of cigarettes will really get a super job done. Beyond fatigue lies compensatory hypertrophy |
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| Posted 4 months ago I gotta tell you, I think inmates washing Police vehicles is a great idea, and I don't know why our department doesn't do it. But I don't think it should be the ONLY option for car washes, we have about 6 different locations, have you brought up the argument of the fact it would cost more fuel to drive the distance rather than spend the money at the gas station?
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| Posted 4 months ago I wash my own. No way in hell I would let an inmate wash my car. They can stick washing eachother. |
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| Posted 4 months ago I will allow inmates to wash the outside of my car but the car is locked and I stay with them, Our inmates aren't doing it at the jail, they do it at one of our Highway Dept. garages and there is a CO and two state workers with them. Pain is weakness leaving the body. Obstacles are what we see when we take our eyes off the goal. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Lock the car...let them wash them..just not have access to the inside dont run hub caps so you can always check your lug nuts...
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| Posted 4 months ago Hmmm I should write a memo to my capt, ask if we can use the inmates to wash the tranportation buses. I dont see how they could harm the outside or do any danger to it as long as they are supervised. liberty or death, what we so proudly hail, once you provoke her. You will hear the rattling of her tail. She will return with a deadly bite, so dont tread on me |
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| Posted 4 months ago I always cleand the interior myself but had trustees get all the mud and other crap off the outside! Here is somethong to think about, WHO works in those commercial carwashes, bet if you checked you would be shocked. all the bad guys are NOT locked up!! Little aside here, one afternoon at the prison a van from another DOC facility came and I noticed something different about it, when I zero'd in on the problem I asked the driver if he chexked the vehicle out before he left, he asked why and I pointed to the writing on the side where some convict had removed just a few letters used white out and a magic marker to change another it now read "Arizona Department of errections". T.G.G. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Our office has 2 trustee's assigned to come to the S. O. daily (M-F) to handle errands & wash vehicles. Vehicles are parked in the was bay (2 @ a time) & left locked, to be washed. Only if the deputy wishes to remain with the vehicle to have the inside cleaned or vacuumed is the vehicle ever unlocked while being washed. This has been done for years & has worked out well. These trustee's also clean the offices & parking lot. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Our department contracts private car washes. They get vacuumed, run through the automatic wash, and then hand dried and tire shined on the other side. I never lose sight of my car due to having the weapons in it. Then I clean the computer, light control, etc because I don't want that stuff touched by those people. Our inmates are used to clean the precincts but they don't touch our cars. The paddy wagon is the only thing that gets inmate labor and that's not very often. Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear. |
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| Posted 4 months ago I only allow an inmate to wash the inside of my patrol vehicle if I am present or if I have emptied all of my equipment out of it. Otherwise they just wash the exterior when I have time to get by to let them. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Like any other work detail with inmates, they need to be supervised and get an inmate that you can somewhat trust to wash your squad. I've never had a problem with inmates washing my squad, but I've never left them unattended when they are doing so. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Had my brand new ride ( got it last Monday) washed by inmates today. Since I had them do the inside I stayed with them. They are also supervised by a Corrections Officer that stays with the crew. My new ride is shiny clean and ready to ride. Beyond fatigue lies compensatory hypertrophy |
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| Posted 4 months ago I wash my own vehicle. It's getting me in shape for the big karate tournament......"Wax on....wax off". |
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| Posted 4 months ago We have a car wash that we contract to do the outside of our cars. The inside is up to us to take care of. At my old PD they had community service guys come and wash our cars when they got out of the pokey. I stayed in my car or right next to it the whole time when it was being washed. It lasted until one of them learned the layout of the public works garage and came back one night, broke into the emergency management office and stole a police portable. That ended the whole "let a shitbag wash the cars for free" program. After that they the highway department workers wash them for us. I always said we should make the fireman wash them, they are just sitting around looking for something to do right? Police work- the greatest show on earth and my team always wins!!!
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| Posted 4 months ago We had the same thing but I always paid at a car wash. I got a better job, the insides were cleaned and that tire shine said it all! Of course, the other Captains thought I was out to kill them with the Amourall on the break pedal. Being a Tyrant does not make one a Leader! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Mine is the same as most everyone else that has posted. We have a washbay atour jail, next to the sallyport. There is an inmate trustee whose job is to wash cars. They are not supervised the whole time, but are in a bay where there is a camera. I personally do not let them touch the inside of the car unless I had a prisoner puke or piss in there. The good thing is that if we have a problem with the cars being washed, the corrections deputy has no problem taking them off the assignment. There is nothing wrong with this country that can't be fixed with what is right with this country. |
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| Posted 4 months ago chimp0082 says ...
LOL.....That would cut into their time of watching reruns of "Emergency" and handling their "hoses". How was the vacation Chimp? |
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| Posted 4 months ago We don't use inmates anymore since one of our former deputies would leave them alone in the parking lot durng the wash cycle. Too much contraband coming into the jail from the inmates having friends/family members stop by while they were working....this former deputy was a little over-the-top on car cleanliness; had to have the engine armor-alled and had it washed several times a week. He also pretty much refused to leave the hard surfaced roads in our county. I'm glad he's gone! We can hit the car wash once a month with our county credit card. There's also a high pressure nozzle down at the county yard where we fuel that does a pretty good job, and is almost spot free. Otherwise, I wash it myself at home. I always do my own interior. I keep a 4" natural hair paint brush in one of the front seat pockets for dusting. It only takes a minute or two to spruce things up while I'm sitting somewhere. When I want to clean the brush, I hold it out the window when I'm cruising down the highway.
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| Posted 4 months ago bigjohnson304 says ...
Yeah ain't that the truth, hosewhackers........LOL. Vacation was good but now it's back to business with ya'll bitches, smacking trolls like hoes, you know how it goes when you're on here hanging with the Bro's, having a cup of joe and trying to forget all your woes. It's all good in the hood.......LOL. Police work- the greatest show on earth and my team always wins!!!
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| Posted 4 months ago
Not only NO... BUT,OH HELL NO! I never will and refuse to let an inmate wash my car. Besides they'll F***K it up anyways. Leaving you with dirty windows, dirt still on the car and soap that wasn't rinsed off well. You are better off washing your own car that's for sure. In God we trust. All others we run through N.C.I.C. |
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| Posted 4 months ago My department does NOT use inmates to wash cars, for many of the same reasons you mentioned, however, sometime we do let people doing community service, or people out on probation wash them, supervised.
However, it is officer descretion. For example, I ALWAYS wash mine myself. |
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| Posted 4 months ago No and NO. I would not allow it. Several of the departments in my area allow their officers to take the vehicle through the car wash. I realize that some of those carwash guys are ex-cons, but usually the officer is sitting in the car so he/she can go 10-8 in a hurry, or is watching through the 2 way glass in the wash area. The police car in an outside setting is a serious deterrent to stupid ass activity, and hardly anyone wants to go BACK to jail. But still...inmates? F*&% THAT. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Every Saturday I get mine washed at the SO. Our SO uses female inmates to wash, as they do a lot better job. I never leave anything of value or anything that could be used as a weapon inside my unit. Furthermore, when they are inside, they are watched like a hawk. "MYSTERY WRAPPED IN A RIDDLE INSIDE AN ENIGMA" |



